Not So Hippy-Dippy

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People seem pretty concerned that we are going to drive up to Vermont and unload ourselves, blindly into the mercy of a climate and lifestyle to which we are completely ignorant.

Ouch.

I'm not sure where to begin with that one, but here goes...

The bus is key for us because it will allow us great mobility for the purpose of learning from those who already know how. The idea is not to be a family on the road, but to be a family without roots enough to hold us to one location, so that we may follow our path of education more easily and quickly.

How better to learn to extend a growing season that to go see, touch and try with someone who is already doing it? What better way to learn anything, than to do it with the kind support of a wise teacher? The point of the bus is to provide ourselves with a home that can come with us...a home that will allow us to meet with, stay with, work with those who would be our teachers, whether or not they have space in their home for us.

We are fully aware of the price of gas, the mpg of a bus, and all plans that we make keep those points in focus. How much does the average family spend on gasoline commuting in the city? How many people are commuting close to an hour to get to and from work every day?
We do not intend to drive on a regular basis and most certainly not every day. We live minutes from nearly everything we do and yet somehow we manage to spend at least $255 per month on gasoline for our minivan, which is one of the most fuel efficient models on the market; having the ability to drop to only 3 cylinders to conserve fuel.
$255 would get a bus (at 8mpg) 400 miles. Four hundred miles is a long way to go when your purpose is to park to live and learn.

Worry not, internet masses, we are neither "hippy-dippy" nor "ignorant romantics"... don't believe everything you read.

It can be hard to know another person when you have access only to bits and pieces of information. Please don't assume that because you have read some things about us that you can define us, label us and put us in a box.

I will continue to write. I cannot express how much all of your kind, helpful emails and comments mean to us.

For those would be judges...please do take the time to at least read the blog before passing judgment, and try to have the presence to understand that not everything is disclosed, and perhaps a question should be asked before your answer is given.

We are working hard. Very, very hard.
I will post as soon as I can about how we healed my Fibromyalgia, about how much I care about each and every person who has written to us as well as those who couldn't possibly even know about us, about education and how important it is to us, about who we actually are and what is the real point of it all.

I am simply one person. One person trying so hard to do the right thing, learn everything that I can in order to do that, protect my children from the storm of it all while educating them to the purpose and the beauty of life and relation with other people, cook everything that we eat from scratch and just be.

Please be patient with me. I am only one person and I cannot answer all of the questions so quickly. This is not to say that I don't want you to ask them.
I do! I do want you to ask them! In every question, there is education for me.
I will keep writing and hopefully, in my crazy stream of consciousness kind of way, I will begin to answer your questions.

Peace, love, health and joy to you all!

I appreciate you more than I can express.

xo

50 comments:

Kirby Olson said...

Good luck to you!

Jim said...

Good luck. You may find it more affordable to get a used trailer-style RV that can be towed - perhaps by a vehicle you already own. They tend to be MUCH more comfortable than bus conversions, get better mileage, and cost a lot less. Bus maintenance is much more challenging than RV/truck/auto maintenance.

Cheers

alicentea said...

Hi Harris family,

I just read an article about you guys on CommonDreams.org, and I'm not sure if you have a plan yet for schooling for your kids (I know they are still very young) but there is a great book called The Teenage Liberation Handbook by Grace Llewellyn which discusses "unschooling" and has lots of great ideas for giving kids educational experiences outside of the regular school system. Although it is geared toward teens, I think many of the ideas can be easily modified to be age appropriate for all kids.
Good luck in your adventure! I hope to declutter my life in the near future, after I graduate college at the end of the year (I am a bit of a packrat). My grandparents live in Middlesex, Vermont and it is a beautiful state.

Jenny, 23, Columbus, Ohio

Rowdy said...

Just read about you guys in a NY Times article! Our story is inspiring and amazing. My husband and I are in the process of scaling down and are planning on doing something similar to you. I also just discovered your blog and will check it daily. Good luck to you!

www.rowdykittens.com

PomfretBobFTTH said...

Harrises,

We are involved in creating a community-owned, subscriber-funded Fiber-to-the-Home network in East-Central Vermont. Our project director read about you in the NY Times, and said you were wondering about being able to get "internet in the woods".

If you are interested in finding more about connectivity in Vermont, please feel free to contact us. You can get us through the website at www.ecfiber.net.

We wish you the best with your ad-venture.

Best regards,

Bob Merrill,
Chair, Press Relations Committee
East-Central Vermont Fiber-Optic Network

J. said...

Before I found this entry, I was thinking about your situation with regards to climate AND THAT I HAD TO SAY SOMETHING. Vermont is unimaginably COLD with A LOT of SNOW in the Winter. I think that I remember reading in NYT that your cabin has no electricity(?) This is not a good idea. And that you'd need wood for the wood(what if you run out and you're snowed in?) burning stove. And all this snow, and this isolated cabin. AND NO ELECTRICITY. Propane gas? Propane gas is known to explode, and or catch on fire. It sounds not only like a bad idea, but a DANGEROUS idea. I felt like I would be remiss if I did not say something. Someone wrote in your comments about doing this kind of thing in BC, why don't you try a place like that instead or the Pacific Northwest where it is more temperate. Or Florida, but then get air conditioning, preferably Central!

btw...You write well. You're talented. I enjoy reading your blog.

Andrew said...

this is really fascinating. I found you guys by following a link on treehugger.com . You are redefined doing something different. I love the name of your blog.

Jen said...

Cheers to you and your family! We embarked on something similar three years ago when I said goodbye to my horrid office job, debts, and pursuit of ever more material misery; after a 4 month road trip in a chevy astro throughout the US and Mexico, we've settled into a fairly normal-seeming existence in Canada, but I work from home and my husband is a carpenter. We're learning to hunt, and I purchase raw milk from a local dairy. Slowly we're finding ways to have our simple lives with simple wholesome food and, well, separate from the need for more.
Good luck on your quest! More should follow in your footsteps.

Stevie said...

Love what you have going,and,I have a friend that has a bus and would like to talk to you. Great gal - quite cosmic really. You can reach Angelique (a former nun) at 512-633-1146, she is expecting your call. Good luck and have an excellent adventure!

Stevie Bear

kate said...

Don't let anyone scare you!

You will be fine and will learn so much as you go. Don't worry about making mistakes.

Keep your eyes out for some good things to have. Personally, my down comforter was all I needed on the coldest nights in the Vermont woods. Being up and doing stuff in the cold is the hard part, but you'll figure it out.

All the best to you!

kate

Kate Waterbury said...

Aimee, I got a little choked up reading your blog today. I've been on a path like yours and so many feelings came up. During our bus trip/vision quest in 1989 when my two younger sons were 11 and 14, our experiences were irreplaceable and precious. It changed my sons' view of the world, changed our lives.

I remember the reactions we got when we arrived in upstate New York during the worst snow storm of the season and 40 below weather. We were in fact unprepared and probably in danger. [We were close to our destination and safety, but not quite there yet.] Even while being deeply grateful, I felt pain at the bone deep resentment I heard in the voice of a north country man who helped us when we truly needed help.

Its curious to me that we each choose these very different places to try community sufficiency [as opposed to self sufficiency]. Very difficult places. I am drawn to New Mexico, high, dry, sunny. The challenges there are different from Vermont, still challenges.

Oops this got long. I feel connected to you and Jeff and your family. Go with love and sunshine.

Kate

jess. said...

who cares if your hippy-dippy or not. there's nothing wrong with that. its just a label. follow and listen to *your* hearts.

part of the truth path is knowing that judgment from others has nothing to do with you. its their own insecurities, jealousy, and fear.

kate was right on. don't let them put fear into your hearts. the universe will protect you. the universe is designed to. surround yourselves with people who are positive, loving and supportive.

perhaps i'll see ya'll in wyoming. lovin you family! many blessings.
snugs.

Kernel Maize said...

Peace and blessings to both of you and your family. You are truly exceptional. It takes courage to know the truth and walk with it.

What you're doing is not easy but wont be as hard as some of us imagine.

You are giving a lot of us hope for our futures as well. Thank you!

Connie said...

Vermont is not "unimaginably COLD". Yes, it does get cold there but you will stay quite warm with a good woodstove and plenty of dry wood. I now live in interior Alaska where it often is 30 and 40 below (and even 50 below or more now and then). We have plenty of folks up here who live off the grid in cabins with no electricity and no water. They rely on woodstoves that burn birch and spruce as we have no really hard woods like oak. Birch is our hardest wood. They survive quite well. They haul their water in or have a holding tank and one of the numerous water delivery companies will deliver. Most of the laundrymats in town have pay showers Most of them have outhouses (not only does it make for a cold bottom but you also have to keep an eye out for moose). You will probably have the advantage of a well for your water supply. Remember that there are also millions of people safely using propane all across the U.S.
You will be just fine. You are moving to a beautiful state.

Ella La Bella said...

hello family of mine!
i already tried to post this comment--but it disappeared!
oh no!
there is something wrong with my internet connection at home, but as soon as it is up and running i will send you some photos of my jumping out of that plane! (well actually-contrary to popular belief--we didnt get to actually Jump, it was more of leaning forward and falling!)
my photos have one thing in common--a Look Of Sheer Terror!!
too bad they can't take photos when youre peacefully gliding down to the earth--cause i was ahappy-as-a-clam then!
give a bunch of kisses to neeka and quinn for me.
did you tell quinn that his aunt jumped out of a plane? i would think that he would think that was cool-io.
i love to read all of these comments and i realize how awesome it is that there are people out there who really care!
lots of love...ella

Connie said...

Rereading my post I realize it sound as though the laundrymats have outhouses. I meant the folks living in what we refer to as dry cabins have outhouses. My first 6 years here we had a two seater outhouse. I guess the original owner liked company.

ihop said...

Like many other commenters, I came here via the article in the NYTimes... just wanted to drop an encouraging note about how inspiring it was to me. I've been couch-surfing for the last five months, rootless and living out of my car, and it's incredible how much pressure there is for me to settle down and start accumulating more stuff, like I'm "supposed" to. Instead, I've found that, even though all of my possessions fit easily into the trunk and backseat of a compact car, I'd like to reduce even further -- for the last five months I've hardly needed most of what's packed in there!

It's incredible how much emphasis there is in our society on having so many material goods, and how little they are actually needed. When I started getting rid of things I felt pangs of resentment, but once they were gone I always felt liberated more than anything else -- one less thing to pay attention to in my life!

Simplification really is beautiful. I commend you so much for your efforts, which are not at all "hippy-dippy" (I've heard that label many times myself lately!) and are instead demanding of remarkable discipline and commitment and, most of all, a courage to reject convention; a courage of which so many people today seem incapable. Bravo, and I look forward to reading your continued adventures on this blog!

summer said...

I read your story in the NYT this morning, and, wow! Your courage and strength is an inspiration. I flirt with similar notions, but I'll admit, I am nervous about letting go of the comforts of my life. To know that others are out there, doing it, warms my heart. I wish you well on your journey. And, I will definitely watch your blog for updates.

Take care!

jennifer starfall said...

i wish you all the best in your adventure. my heart is really torn - i want so much to do what you are doing, but my husband would never...

i'll visit your blog often and live vicariously through you (as long as i can hold out with all this stuff!).

Corporate Jester said...

Being from Maine ( born and raised and living here now ) the winters are not "THAT" bad! This past winter was the worst I've seen it in a long time. Mostly snow. . not really cold. The nay sayers about surviving the winter are alarmists. Long underwear and Smartwool socks as well as winter coats and boots snow pants for the kids are the key. Really . .it's no big deal! People go winter camping all the time. there is gear for that!

Also . . . this is the 21st century . . . no one is going to die. Planning ahead is key as well as a weather radio. If you know a storm is coming button down the hatches and hunker down! Make sure you have plenty of food. Mainers tend to go shopping before a huge storm and then eat to celebrate the storm! Crazy I know but that is what we do.

People in northern New England are helpful people especially those who live a minimalistic life. Pay no attention to alarmist - this coming from someone who feels more comfortable on the road living minimalisticly than not!

There is no right or wrong way of going about your journey . .there is only the way that works best for you and the family. Living is in the journey not the destination. Here's an inspirational link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZM2G-PfEbc

Your blog has inspired me to start purging and get read for my own little journey somewhere!

Peace and solidarity!
Corporate Jester

ShastaBob56 said...

From Long Beach California...just read the article in the New York Times. It all sounds interesting and exciting. Go for it!

Lydia Cornell said...

This is so thrilling and gives us all so much hope. My motto is "Less is More..." and it truly is. Thank syou. The article on your lifestyle change really touched me. I have been feeling an urge to simplicity for many months now.

Maybe we couldl interview you for our Progressive Talk radio show in Vegas! the city that uses way too much electricity.
Love
Lydia

jjsonp said...

hi, i just read the NYT article and a few of your posts.

i'm wondering...would not the minivan perhaps serve as well as a 'bus'? or maybe you're talking about an actual school-bus-sized unit. but personally i imagine a reliable modern minivan (while not as _romantic_ as a 'bus') would serve admirably for moving your family and a minimal amount of gear to your location. you couldn't all sleep in it comfortably but you could buy a very nice tent pretty cheaply.

Sabina England, Playwright said...

Dude, you guys are inspiring and amazing. I so totally wanna be a road nomad like you... thanks for writing about your adventure on the road for us to read about :)

Joe Cline said...

Hey guys,
I got the link to the NYT article from a co-housing email list I belong to. I've been interested in living small and cohousing for about a year now and I'd like to commend you on just doing it!

I hope you keep your blog going while you are making the adjustment so those of us out here with less kutzpah can live it with you and maybe get over the tipping point to actually doing what yall are doing.

Also, if you need any help getting left over stuff to the charities just let me know. I'm a realtor here in Austin and have a jeep cherokee that can fit most furniture, etc.

Best wishes on your upcoming adventure!

Joe Cline
Me

Tamar Orvell said...

great idea, great blog. YET I CAN NOT READ FURTHER WITHOUT EYESTRAIN. PLEASE consider changing your background from dark to white so that the black text shows up easily. THANKS.

Tom Elder said...

Best of luck and I admire the courage that a decision of this nature must take. You are brave and adventurous. As with all things in life the best advice I can give is to not live life with regard to public opinion. I have found that to walk a mile in another man's (or woman's :) shoes is sometimes the toughest journey in life. I excited for you and will stay tuned to see how it is going. Who knows , I may soeday join you, lol:) Safe journeys and enjoy.

ellen said...

i'm sorry i'm arriving in austin just as you're leaving. it would have been nice to know you. how reassuring to know there are still people left who are not defined by making money and ascending the coporate/social ladder. as breathtakingly beautiful as colorado is, it is also really cold, so i'm trading mountain cold for prairie heat, humidity and progressive politics. finally, having lived in the northeast, i hope you are able to stay warm in your heatless vermont cabin. best wishes.

mely said...

I wish you the best of luck in
your present choice of life to undergo. I appreciate so much your decision. I wish i'm still young like you, so I can do the same.God bless you and your family.

ritabird said...

Hey, You might want to think about our fine state of West Virginia as well. The winters are much milder, land is very inexpensive compared to alot of the country and taxes are VERY low.
This state, despite its bad publicity of late, really is ALMOST HEAVEN!

Melody said...

I tried to look at the older posts but saw no mention of communes. Have you considered them? My cousin lives on one in the central US. I get her news from my uncle. She and her family (husband and kids) are very happy there. This is their second commune. The first (in Vermont or Connecticut?)was not a good fit. I envy your courage and wish you the best on your upcoming adventure!!!

Rebecca said...

I just read about your family in the NY Times. I can understand your desire to simplify. I sometimes feel suffocated by all of our stuff. We plan on downsizing once our children are grown and have moved on (a couple of years.) Wish I had the notion to do this when they were younger- seems like an impossible idea with two teenagers who love stuff. Good luck to you!

James said...

Just read the article in the NyTimes.. I have a feeling you'll be getting a couple more hits. Good luck and may the wind be always at your back! I understand how freeing it must be to rid yourself of all the detritus of modern life and emerge clean and fresh. Like in a new skin or something.

Francesca said...

Hello! I am writing from Italy, the NY Times article was translated on the italian newspaper and I want to know if is possible to join you in some way for an italian tv program that we are doing in the US. Please, for us would be wonderful to meet you! f.

Homestead Farm said...

You guys are great and best of luck in what you're doing. We live a life of voluntary simplicity and know some of what you're going through. Hang in there.

larchlion said...

Good Luck. And I thought it was ambitious for me to try to live without a car in Dallas...

carfreeinbigd.blogspot.com

Miles said...

Congratulations! Your display of courage and conviction is inspiring. It's funny how the list of comments is overwhelmingly positive, yet the few negative ones tend to jump out at you and sting. Pay no mind to those; as you seek YOUR truth.

Your family photos are great (my wife and I also have a young, red-haired son named Quinn. He is 7, and our daughter Ella (also a redhead) is 5 years old (our third is Thomas - not yet 2 & a blondie). I thought it was interesting that there are some family name similarities. Travel safely & live fully. There are no mistakes on the path of life, only experiences.

looney said...

Can I come with you?
:)
Also of Austin, TX, dreaming of returning to the simple life...

Kevin Geiger said...

Good luck, please remember that VT has unpassable roads at times in remote areas due to mud in spring, and snow in winter. Many remote town roads are neither maintained or plowed, and often have weight limits. Contact the town clerk or regional planning commission where you are thinking of moving to for local information.

Kevin Geiger

Katie said...

You should consider converting a diesel vehicle to running on used vegetable oil. That should keep your costs down considerably.

Also, please contact me if you'd like some help with home-schooling. I'm a certified teacher.

mommasara said...

some of our long-time friends are doing what you are doing, and I think it is beautiful. We would love to get into a position where we were truly together as a family, instead of my husband working 6 days a week.

Peak Dad said...

Hi,

I'm a father of two (girl-14, boy-10), scared silly over coming energy crisis, and considering a similar lifestyle. I will check your blog daily as I sort through my options. I, too, started a blog - peakera.blogspot.com - mostly to help myself think. Blessing to all of you.

being stalked said...

I hope you've taken some survivalist courses and stuff so that you already know how to kill, slaughter, and prepare animals since, among other things, you'll need to be settled before you can plant a crop and then wait for the harvest. You most likely can subsist on the wild growth in certain areas until then but it will be pretty meager living (and even if you plan on doing that, you'll need to have taken survivalist-type courses in order to know how to deal with it). Do you know how to make your own clothes from the things you will be around?

I think its important that you be prepared. Keep in mind that there are a lot of bad people out there and while you may not run into any of them, you just might so it is good to be prepared for that as well. Plus, having a gun will help you kill animals especially if any should attack you or your earthly-family.

EJ said...

Hi,
We live in south eastern BC - with electricity and high speed satellite internet (aand a 120 year old wood stove that we cook on all winter). It works great - we telecommute to Europe.

Good luck,
Eva

Paige said...

If you need a roof, playmates for your kids and fresh eggs on your way to Vermont, we'd welcome you to our upstate NY little farm. Our experiment is way less intense than yours, but I think I understand your impulse. Good luck and good travels.

floramary said...

I wish you all well! I wish that we had not waited 30 years to begin our new life adventure here in Nova Scotia, Canada.
what you are trying is completely doable and a wonderful way to live. Wood heat is warm and there is nothing finer than the gently falling snow in winter.
There are many in our new village rural community pursuing the life you are headed for and the sense of community is fantastic. I have been blogging our adventure for the last 6 months. I may add a link to your blog in my sidebar.
All the best.
Flora
http://floramary.wordpress.com

Katy said...

Ohhh dear ...

We lived on a beautiful farm in the Pacific Northwest from the time we were 24 til 39 -- a farm we renovated, where one of our children was born, where eagles nest and salmon swim, where we grew food and loved dearly. But eight months ago we left the intense beauty and deep roots we made there for life in southwest England.

In many ways, our stories are similar (moving onto a new adventure) but different as well (we moved from rural > small city). My husband is a professor of geology and we needed to move on after graduate school and a position that offered security. We have a lot of struggles -- our 16 acre nature preserve/farm hasn't sold yet -- we are caught up in the credit crisis. We have had an offer but the buyer is waiting to sell her place. Another interesting change is where they're finding spirit and meaning and freedom: instead of the freedom of the land, our three kids (ages 10, 8 and 5) have different freedoms now offered through their British schools -- intellectual freedom and exploration offered by so many new challenges and activities. We do live up against a nature preserve filled with birds and badgers and bunnies in Exeter and they roam in the woods as much now as they did on the farm and that is helping me with the guilt I feel in moving them. Interestingly, their sense of this adventure is very different than that of we adults...who dearly miss the land. Kids are malleable and they haven't missed a beat, jumping right into their new lives. I suspect your children will do the same with your adventure as well. When we first moved here, our then four year old would ask, "Mommy, are we in Engwund or America right now?"

I turned 40 a couple of weeks ago and my gift -- to spend a week on the farm, 6000 miles away from my family. I just returned and it's both beneficial to still have our land but hard to be hemoraghing money during this major transition.

As a writer and photographer, I have a blog about the whole process of giving up one life in exchange for another: www.aaltotude.com "Deconstructing a Life in the American West, Rebuilding on an Island in the Atlantic." We gave up a lot of our belongings but still filled a 40-foot container. As a writer who likes documentation and artifacts and traditions as they ground me and preserve ideas, I can't give up as much as you're giving up. I completely understand your thoughts and appreciate your values.

Because my husband is a published academic, there is a privacy block on it -- I didn't want neighors to read about my initial grief and misgivings in moving. (Filling out the readership form that pops up will let me know you're knocking on the door, and I'll readily letcha into the new pages of our European lives as Americans...) To write to me, feel free to do so at kathrynaalto@hotmail.com.

Good luck Harris Family -- I look forward to reading about your journey.

Yes said...

You are an inspiration in this society where we are consumed by things and suffer a disconnect with others. All the very best to you.

U.R.I said...

Good for you! I dropped out in 1972 and paid the price of losing everything. I went on to join a commune and for the next twenty six years I helped raise about 168 children in the mountians mostly of Washington State mostly with no electricity, outhouse gardens etc. . We homeschooled, gardened, lived simply and organically. We reconditioned (with the help of VERY talented mechanics) old school and public buses and traveled to rainbow Gatherings Barter Fairs etc. (barter fairs are great in Washington State). The fall Barter faire (full moon in October weekend)especially because the apples are harvested, the grain is harvested the honey is in jars all for trading. What an experience. You have to call the Okanogan coops or health food stores to get a bead on where they will be. I have NO regrets. When I emerged in my late fifties I went back to school and graduate next month with my Masters degree. My kids. Lets see several lawyers, several social workers, some techers, some environmentalists, some social activsits some bartenders, some chefs (lots of chefs) I would do it all over again. I have just finished my memoirs. By the way I switched to yurts with insulation, little cabins and creative dwellings because those buses are FREEZing and hard to keep warm in.Great for travel though! One morning in Washington the day of Halloween my kids got out of bed and slid all the way to the front of the bus. Someone had left the hand water dripping and it froze a solid walkway. Oh the stories I tell. God bless you. PS I never had to downsize because I never owned much but the love and friendships I made with other people who lived with or near me. I am also close to lots of the kids. Some of my friends who did everything right (Retirment accounts, stocks homes etc) now have to work just like me because of the housing bubble, the stock plunge etc-or they died befroe they could take that vacation and retirement they had worked so hard for. Yep I am happy with mylife cant say the same thing for my aquisitive relatiaves. There were rough patches but what type of life does not have some challenges.
U R I

Dani said...

I read your artice in the NYT!!! How exciting for you and your family, Amy! We will miss you in bookclub.